Orabilis (Orabile) (-before June 1203)

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Additional names
Parents
Father:1Nes (-)
Spouses and relationship events
Married:2Adam (-)
Divorced:3Sir Robert de Quincy (-)
Married:4Gilchrist of Mar (-probably between 1211 and 1228), Earl of Mar
Married:5before 1155Sir Robert de Quincy (-)
Children
Children with Sir Robert de Quincy:
Saher de Quincy (around 1165/70-3 November 1219), Earl of Winchester6
Attributes
Events
Died:7before June 1203
Personal Info
Daughter of Nes, son of William, who styles herself Countess of Mar in a writ of uncertain date, but some time before 20 August 1199, when Matthew, Bishop of Aberdeen, one of the witnesses, died. She was also, before 1155, apparently the wife of Robert de Quincy, and certainly mother of Saer de Quincy, created Earl of Winchester, who refers to her as his mother in a charter dated before 1200, his father being then still alive and a witness to the writ. There is much diversity of opinion as to Orabile's exact position, and as to which Earl of Mar she married, owing to the fact that her husbands were contemporaries. Mr. Skene adjudges her to be the wife of Earl Gilchrist. Mr. Burnett in one opinion contradicts Mr. Skene, and asserts she was the second wife of Earl Morgund. On second thoughts he thinks she may have been the divorced wife of Gilchrist. Perhaps a solution may be found in the suggestion that she was the wife of De Quincy first, and was divorced from him, after which she became the wife of 'Adam, son of Duncan', a Fifeshire noble, who was her husband about 1172-80, and between that date and 1199 she married Earl Gilchrist.8
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Sources

1 Sir James Balfour Paul, Lord Lyon King of Arms, The Scots Peerage Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, volume V: (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1908), Mar, p. 570-73, Gilchrist.
2 Sir James Balfour Paul, Lord Lyon King of Arms, The Scots Peerage Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, Volume IV: (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1907), Fife, p. 5-6, IV Duncan.
3 Ibid
4 Sir James Balfour Paul, Lord Lyon King of Arms, The Scots Peerage Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, volume V: (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1908), Mar, p. 570-73, Gilchrist.
5 Sir James Balfour Paul, Lord Lyon King of Arms, The Scots Peerage Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, Volume IV: (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1907), Fife, p. 5-6, IV Duncan.
6 Sir James Balfour Paul, Lord Lyon King of Arms, The Scots Peerage Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, volume V: (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1908), Mar, p. 570-73, Gilchrist.
7 Ibid
8 Ibid
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